It's getting harder and harder to come ... Crownair Unveils Glass Cockpit-Equipped T210 During AOPA Expo 2008 I have never figured that why they don’t resurrect it for the owner flown turbine market. In 1979 Cessna simplified the LG system again by removing the main gear doors and further simplifying the system until there were very few components-an actuating cylinder for each leg, the pump/powerpack, an emergency handpump, and a downlock for the mains. Best of luck, Dave. The turbo in our unpressurized 210 seldom worked, but when it did it made a super good impression on me. New engines while I owned it. Crownair Aviation разработал “Centurion Edition” T210, ... Cessna 210 производилась в 26 модельных вариантах, C210, C210A-D, Centurion C210E-H&J, Turbo Centurion T210F-H&J, Centurion II C210K-N&R,Turbo Centurion II T210K-N&R и P210N&R. Coming into Washington, I kept the power up until three-mile final, then dropped the gear and ten degrees of flaps. He computed 6.5g from the 3.8g design limit load, the 1.5 (50%) safety factor required by the FAA and an additional factor of 1.15 (15%) because of the quality materials used by Cessna. Enjoyed it and flew it for 2500 plus hours. Great article. Cool running and powerful up into the service ceiling. Jamie Luster, Avidyne’s Director of Aftermarket Sales, said, “Cessna 210 owners will get the latest in safety and situational-awareness capabilities and a beautiful new panel for a fraction of the cost of buying a … By 1967 the system, although powered by an engine mounted hydraulic pump was workable and dependable. Went back to school and didn’t fly again until 1976 when, with my…. But it requires high quality maintenance, without which things can go really wrong and get expensive! Of course I was IMC, of course there was a little ice, and of course there were a few bumps over the eastern edges of the Appalachian Mountains. The standard tanks carry way more fuel than my bladder can tolerate. Crownair Aviation developed a “Centurion Edition” T210, which is a remanufactured aircraft introduced in November 2008 that features a glass cockpit and new engine along with other minor refinements. FMI: www.crownairaviation****, www.aero-tv****, www.youtube****/aerotvnetwork, *******twitter****/AeroNews I didn’t compare it to a twin because it’s just apples and oranges. 5) Have you ever tried to take a picture from a “newer airplane”? There’s a handful! I have very fond memories of the 210, but it is a love it/hate it type of airplane – its strengths are unique, and its weaknesses are maddening. If you don’t have an old 210 in your hangar, Crownair will help you find one. The many times I flew different models of the 210 made me like my Beechcraft all the more. This list of popular articles is a great place to get started. Hi Bill! I once flew two people and a complete, 4 ft.-long cornhole set (Google it – it’s a lawn game) to Put-in-Bay, a small island in Lake Erie. Is that even legal to take off? ; Variants. Keep’em coming. The Cessna 205, 206, and 207, known primarily as the Stationair are a family of single-engined, general aviation aircraft with fixed landing gear, used in commercial air service and also for personal use. So Crownair, a San Diego-based FBO and aircraft modification firm, has come up with a way to freshen old 210s while adding an Avidyne Entegra glass panel. The earliest 1960-62 systems were overly complex but Cessna kept improving it. What a great machine! ^ Crownair Aviation (n.d.). Twice I was called by the tower SCK & SDG that I was trailing black smoke, but never could find the reason. Once took it up to 24,000 feet *we had oxy. Had to pump them down once. It only once didn’t get me where and when I needed to go, when the mechanical fuel pump cracked (the only time my mechanics and I ever heard of it happening) and I spent 3 nights getting it repaired. Crownair Unveils Glass Cockpit-Equipped T210 During AOPA Expo 2008 Nice job!! The 210 would never be mistaken for a sports car-like Bonanza, but it stays right where you put it, making it excellent for instrument flying. "We understand the dedicated owners and enthusiasts who fly Centurions, and our goal is to make their flying experience first class." Not only a nice looking aircraft, it flies nice as well. Aircraft Bluebook Single Engine Piston Cessna CESSNA 210 M & up. So when a friend recently asked what I thought of the Cessna 210 Centurion, I hesitated. Crownair Aviation разработал “Centurion Edition” T210, ... Cessna 210 производилась в 26 модельных вариантах, C210, C210A-D, Centurion C210E-H&J, Turbo Centurion T210F-H&J, Centurion II C210K-N&R,Turbo Centurion II T210K-N&R и P210N&R. John never played out, but the speed and payload sure did. I think the Cardinal RG is the best looking plane Cessna ever built. Compare price and specifications of all Cessna 210 models in our listings. Anyway – who knows. I knew he was bracing for an inconveniently low number, so I was proud to surprise him with 150 knots. If. For the owner who’s serious about maintenance and proficiency, it offers good cruise speed, huge load-hauling capabilities, and honest flying qualities. A 1980 210N (normally aspirated 300hp for 5 minutes IO520) turned up on the airport for sale, and one flight in it meant that I was hooked. To their credit, we can still get parts and aftermarket suppliers like Rob-Air, McFarlane, and others are filling in the gap. Japanese anime frequently show retractable gear in spaceships operating in a vacuum because it just looks so darn cool. The result was failure and another shuttered production line, even though the airplane was a great performer. It’s a complicated dance to get those wheels folded into the fuselage of a high-wing airplane, and the resulting system demands good maintenance. Enjoyed your article and brought back many happy memories. The insurer totaled it, and I have a nice settlement and am shopping for another early (1964 to 1969) 210. Maintenance is easy on this airplane. Without question, though, the weak point of a Cessna 210 is the landing gear. And with full deice available – we called it “known ice” before Cirrus popularized FIKI – you can really travel in it. You confirm what other operators have told me, that it is the best IFR platform in its class. Aircraft ownership is a substantial and important investment. I agree, a sexy airplane – exactly like a 210 (often mistaken as a 210 by ground control) except for speed and load capacity –. Could that be a good thing? Such an accident isn’t possible in a Cirrus. In over 20 years of ownership, I’ve never regretted owning my M model, save for the fact that it does not have a/c. Terrible article couldn’t be further from the truth written from ignorance from somebody who apparently doesn’t have much time in the aircraft the Cessna T210M or N Is in a league by itself performance useful load the real true comparison would be more towards a twin Aircraft Even though there are no twin aircraft that have the same useful. From spinner to tail cone, the upgraded 1977 aircraft features all new and state-of-the-art amenities including a glass cockpit with Electronic Flight Instrument System, new classic blue paint scheme, RAM engine, tinted glass, wingtips with recognition lights, Super Quiet cabin soundproofing and gray leather seats with sheepskin inserts. A few years after acquiring my 210 I received a copy of William D. Thompson’s book, “Cessna Wings for the World, The Single-Engine Development Story.” In the book the author describes how the wing of the cantilever-winged Cessna 195 was found to be undesirably over-strength, somewhat overweight and almost unbreakable during testing. This is a pilots airplane that must be flown. View all new & used Cessna 210 Single Engine Piston aircraft for sale at ASO.com. Join thousands of other pilots - sign up for our informative email newsletter. And many things the A36 could do that the 210 couldn’t. Vitatoe Aviation offers the TN550 conversion which uses a Continental IO-550P engine with an IO-520 turbocharger with dual intercoolers and a larger alternator. My favorite is obviously the Silver Eagle. Did you know that most of the articles at Air Facts are written by readers like you? All Rights Reserved. I’ve got some Aztec time and it hauls a good load but it’s just a totally different airplane than a 210. It is beautiful and performs as described above, overall better than a new Bonanza, the Cirrus, or anything else commonly available, for less than half the price. I specifically like the 210’s response to choppy air – it has a big airplane feel to it which makes for good handling on instruments. Earlier models had a (probably undeserved) reputation for vapor lock. We flew…, I chaired a festival Wings & Wheels Show event for 11 years. Vitatoe Aviation offers the TN550 conversion which uses a Continental IO-550P engine with an IO-520 turbocharger with dual intercoolers and a larger alternator. The unfortunate reality is Cessna couldn’t make a 210 today – at least not one that would sell. (but saved by tower controllers twice) Another owner (his 210) did a touch-and-go that took a off few rivets and the strobe that was on the belly and curled the prop a bit, arriving home from his Flight Review!! The horror stories about maintenance, landing gear, etc. With the strut-free high wing, cargo loading was painless. > O&N Aircraft offers a Rolls-Royce Model 250 turboprop conversion of the T210 and Pressurized Cessna P210N known as the "Silver Eagle". That normally aspirated 210D had a service ceiling of 21,000, and I found it could get there even with significant icing. In a Cirrus the only thing to do is raise the flaps and enjoy the view. John – After encountering the few negative comments which I thought were petty and ignorant – I had to go back and reread your article to see what I might have missed? Crownair was formed this year in San Diego, CA. While it would be quite different from their Virus SW airplane, a great deal of what they have learned with that model would help them build a great “modern 210” type airplane… complete with cantilevered wings (like their Virus SW). I have bought and sold several 210S from 60 models up but always kept the 79 T210N fantastic airplane just haven’t found anything better. Some friends in an Aztec and a 182 couldn’t find a way to make it work, but it was easy in the Centurion. Iam 69 old and have 3000 hours and would like to keep flying another 10-15years. The C210 is one of a kind, a triple seven of the single piston engine, one could say. The Cessna Centurion 210 is a performance airplane. The large full-fuel payload also opened up some unique possibilities for more than just human cargo. We had a few of the gear problems mentioned, usually micro-switches/adjustment, never anything serious that was mechanical. The Cessna 210 was manufactured in 26 model variants. I trained two student pilots from scratch on their own 210’s. Once I watched it take off and saw the gear retract. Enjoyed the comments,except the political one, but they’re everywhere nowadays…I am in the market for a 210 now..have flown 210’s years ago, and loved them..I have owned 206,180, baron,debonair..all good , but I don’t like climbing over the wing in beeches, and 206’s are few and far between, 180 too small for current needs…thanks for the owner comments..good info. Email your article to email@example.com. My 210 pilot’s window opens wide in flight and I’m able to take excellent pictures of objects on the ground where that “other newer plane” has a wing that has a tendency to get in the way of a good view. The Cessna 210 was manufactured in 26 model variants. The airplane is “Known Ice”, built-in oxygen, and AC. Camelia and I bought a 1979 T210N new 4 hours on it we have 5100hrs on it now when we have all ways been the pic since 4 hours. Regrettably, though, I did not. Line Staff members are ramp-side-ready to marshal your aircraft to a secured location, whether it be in one of our various hangars, or on our spacious ramp. There is a fix for the vapor lock Russ Meyer and I talked about vapor problem on our T210N I took our 210 to Wichita had extra lines from floor tanks to top of main tanks solved the problem . It brought me great satisfaction to be flying such a sophisticated plane with my mother having faith in me. World Record! Want to share your love it/hate it airplane? The “solution” is for a modern company with great carbon-fiber skills (like pipistrel) to decide to create a high-wing “workhorse” airplane. Not the same as the 210N but a keeper too. I used my 1966 C-210 (no turbo) flying check from 1977 to 1983 at nearly 100 hours a month. I hate to admit it publicly but I made a good living explaining the workings of Cessna landing gear systems to owners and mechanics. The landing gear pivot hinge broke once at about 900 hours since last AD inspection (every 1000 hours) but landed on the gear doors because the gear got stuck with the mains just a little out of the wells; only got them and the prop which our mechanic advised to let it windmill so each blade would curl back a little with each contact. Share your experience on any aspect of GA transportation flying, whether for business or pleasure. Great airplanes, unfortunately the FAA saw fit to pull my medical, but that’s another story. Those were the days my friend! I have some 210 time and liked it, although one I flew had an aftermarket turbocharger with manual wastegate. John Frank’s book was a keeper too. Was a dream to fly and you’re right about the IFR performance. One of my more memorable rides as an Army Pilot 40 + years ago was several hours in an F-15 backseat flying out of Bitburg AFB in Germany. I suspect it is all about getting government subsidies. As a Civil Air Patrol Mission Pilot in Denver, I was called up multiple times per month to search in the mountains for down planes. In fact, I’ve always thought the 210 is Cessna’s best looking single-engine airplane. Gear was made much more simple and reliable in 79. LOL He had trouble keeping up with me. Without my saying anything, passengers’ noses always seemed to be pressed against the glass right after takeoff. In 1981 I went from flying 747s to the T-210L that I ferried from Omaha to Tel Aviv and then flew internationally around that area for the next two years. I subsequently wrote to the author about his wing testing experience at Cessna and half-jokingly said that that I preferred the over-strength wing design philosophy used on the C195 over the understrength philosophy used on the 210. The C210, C210A-D, the Centurion C210E-H&J, Turbo Centurion T210F-H&J, the Centurion II C210K-N&R, the Turbo Centurion II T210K-N&R and the P210N&R. Finally, NO…. Mr. Zimmerman you need to talk to more owners before you comment on a particular plane. Hi John, Divide its battery capacity by its motor’s power and you get 14.5 minutes at full power! Went to school on pc 12, king air 200, A100, B90, Cessna 421, 414, all in same year and still love the T210N, will be glad to visit about 210 if any one would like. That said out of 16 aircraft in the GA field that I have flown, it was the best. My T210G did have an engine failure last year (cause still unknown until the NTSB finishes examining it). It's completely free, and we will not share your information with anyone. A trip into Washington Dulles one day in 2004 sold me on the airplane. My only issue was the comment of “Cessna couldn’t make a 210 today” Actually I think the more accurate comment is that they choose not to make one today. The fuel system is complicated, turbocharged models need a little extra TLC, and some parts are hard to find. Great King equipment package, flight director, HSI, rnav, loran, and storm scope. So to reiterate: it’s a marvelous airplane that I love. Rob, In response to Kim Hunter (above), the last plane I owned before retiring was a Cardinal RG. I owned it for 12 years, but it is still out there flying. I spent more for gear work on the Cardinal than the gear work on the 210. Having a shop that knows 210s is the best way to prevent problems. 95% of my flying was solo. The Crownair "Centurion Edition" T210 will compete with new manufactured aircraft by offering more payload, faster speeds and more range. It is a load hauler, not quite as fast as Bonanza, but at least everyone faces forward and passengers can either look out the window or fully recline their seats. Production on the Crownair "Centurion Edition" T210 will be done on an as-ordered basis and takes approximately two to three months. Love the 210N . The Centurion may rise again. Lots of us have shared your experience. I have some P210 time, and a lot of years in a 206. If I had the need and $$$ I would own a Vitatoe-modified P210. Nope – didn’t miss nothun’ – and concur wholeheartedly the second time around on all of your points based upon 1500 hours in 1977 T-210M (our first corporate airplane) in the middle 80’s before moving up to TBM 700. My first 210 was a 1964 210D, the first year with the IO-520. Sorry this note is not technical, but for me the 210 means joy. Cessna brought back the 172 and 182, but not the 210. Hi Bill, Whether you have a precise requirement for a specific aircraft, or just a concept with an understanding of your needs, let the Aircraft Sales and Management Team at Crownair Aviation handle the time consuming and sometimes tedious aspects of buying, selling, or managing your valuable asset. The turbo and exhaust were expensive on the T 210. In addition to being Editor-in-Chief of Air Facts, John is a Vice President at Sporty’s Pilot Shop, responsible for new product development and marketing. Crownair Aviation Aug 2005 - Aug 2008 3 years 1 month. The 210 was the original “if it fits, it ships” airplane. We’ll never know, because Cessna took the opposite approach, buying the Columbia 350/400 series and trying to out-Cirrus Cirrus. Wilmington, DE. Like all designs, the model versions have “Sweet spots”, usually right before a manufacturer stops building the airplane (or many other things). I loved both. "January 2004: O&N Aircraft". Now I gotta worry about flying near 210s. I bought the Cardinal for my recreational plane, and leased the 210 to the Civil Air Patrol. I suspect it’s the same with the 210 vs. Bonanza debate. In the late 80’s early 90’s, I owned both a 74 Cardinal RG and a 76 T210. We hauled our family (3 kids) all over the country at nice speeds and loads. Why? 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